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Could Zuma be the architect of his ‘political conspiracy’?

History is beset with illustrious men whose ascendancy to power owe to the employment of manipulative schemes intended to provoke innate emotions of the general mass of desperate people. The presence of particular conditions is requisite for the purpose of aspirant leaders to capture the imagination of people and inspire hope. When society is torn by social and political strife, inflation and economic problems, it is easily susceptible to the treachery of leaders who come with promises of hope.

Benito Mussolini (1883–1945) was most artful in imposing his ideals upon the Italians. Fatigued by endless riots, political and economic instability caused by World War I, as well as enthused by the need to restore their country to its dignity and former glory, Italians succumbed to the trappings of fascism promised by Mussolini.

Mussolini was impressive; crowds, hungry for change and rescue from their political and economic misery, ate out of the palm of his hand. He was dramatic, blessed with contradicting opinions and true facts ever eluding him, but his messages were powerful and moving.

Adolf Hitler (1889–1945) in Germany also played on the misery of the Germans suffering from the dreadful effects of World War I. The people of Germany were on the verge of a revolution; they were desperate for someone to pull them out of poverty and restore their faith in their country. Hitler was a skilled orator and effective in disseminating propaganda techniques to manipulate the minds of people into believing the ideals he was imposing as the absolute truth.

While we are supposed to learn from history in order that we do not repeat its vices, there are those who deliberately employ lessons of history to advance their cause.

Having heard and read the judgment passed by Judge Nicholson on the case involving the president of the ANC, Jacob Zuma — and having witnessed together with millions of South Africans the political drama that unfolded in 2002, in which the roles of protagonist and antagonist swapped continuously between the two main characters, President Mbeki and Jacob Zuma — I have concluded that the possibility exist that Jacob Zuma may have orchestrated the political conspiracy against himself in order to secure his ascendancy to power.

Judge Nicholson in his judgment on September 12 2008 said that “the applicant [Jacob Zuma] complains of the legality of such a procedure [his dismissal as deputy president of the country]”.

Zuma told the judge: “Shortly before the 20th (on or about Sunday 6 June 2005), I was requested by the president of the RSA, through others, to resign in the light of the Shaik judgment. The request at that time was hard to justify on any legal basis.”

In November 2007, Mosiuoa Lekota, Minister of Defence — following protracted insinuations that Zuma’s dismissal was attributed to a political plot against him — said that Zuma had asked to be dismissed rather than resign after Schabir Shaik was found guilty of fraud and corruption. Lekota indicated that a meeting between Mbeki and Zuma was held prior to Zuma being relieved of his duties, where both agreed that Zuma could no longer maintain his position as deputy president of the country.

According to Lekota, Mbeki and Zuma then briefed the extended national working committee of the ANC. Lekota said that “… in that briefing they said the president had suggested that perhaps the deputy president should resign. But comrade Zuma prevailed on the president by saying, ‘Rather you dismiss me, because if I resign it might suggest that I’m admitting guilt, when I’m not. Therefore, the best thing is that you dismiss me.'”

As maintained by Lekota, the speech that Mbeki read in Parliament on June 14 2005 announcing the dismissal of his deputy had first been read and approved by Zuma.

It is rather intriguing that Zuma stood before a court of law and suggested he was informed of his dismissal through others. Either Jacob Zuma committed perjury in his submissions to Judge Nicholson or the Minister of Defence was economical with the truth — which would be rather insulting to the trust and confidence with which the people of South Africa absorbed his statements.

Mbeki revealed in an interview with the editor of the Sunday Times, Mondli Makhanya, and political editor Wally Mbhele how he and Zuma met privately in 2005 to discuss Zuma’s allegations of a conspiracy against him. In the interview Mbeki said Zuma had confided in him about the political plot against him but was not keen on members of the ANC’s national working committee being presented with the contents of their discussion. According to Mbeki, Zuma felt that he should not tell the NEC about the discussion “because if we did, they wouldn’t solve any problems, they would create new problems”.

Mbeki went on to mention that both he and Zuma presented a report to the national executive committee (NEC) about allegations of political conspiracy against Zuma, spanning more than 15 years. The NEC at the time came to the conclusion that there was no conspiracy against Zuma.

Given the sequence of events as presented by Mbeki, Zuma could not have approached the president with allegations of conspiracy if he truly believed that the president was behind a plot against him. It would not make sense that Zuma would approach an instigator of a plot against him with the expectation that this instigator would cease his devious conduct.

That Zuma had refused to provide details of his alleged conspiracy to the then NEC by citing the possibility of new problems being created raises serious questions. Was Zuma perhaps waiting for the perfect moment to create these “new problems”? The intensity and rigour with which these allegations of political conspiracy were churned out was more pronounced following Zuma’s election as president of the ANC. There appeared to have been a systematic marshalling of propaganda to manipulate unsuspecting and loyal supporters of the ANC since Polokwane, given the favourable occurrence of events during the course of Zuma’s troubles with the law.

Zuma had been a close comrade of Mbeki’s for more than three decades. During that period he had observed and possibly learned of the manner in which one rises to power. Mbeki ascended to the helm of the ANC through mobilisation of support from the ANCYL, then led by Peter Mokaba; the ANC Women’s League, then led by Winnie Madikizela-Mandela; Cosatu, then led by Mbhazima Shilowa; and the SACP, then led by Charles Nqakula. In 2007, when heading to the ANC national conference in Polokwane, Zuma had mobilised similar support and emerge victorious under the false guise of victimhood.

In the same manner that the majority of Italians and Germans, besieged after World War I by political and economic misery, found solace and rejuvenation of spirit in the advent of change to the populist leadership of Mussolini and Hitler, the multitude of poor ANC supporters see their current unfortunate economic circumstances as failure on the part of the Mbeki government to release them from their misery. The present political and economic climate is fertile for those aspiring for higher office to plant the seed of discord.

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  1. Siphiwo Qangani with kangaroos Siphiwo Qangani with kangaroos 15 September 2008

    We’re BY your side in these depressing times.
    Posting raving, mind-numbing and motionless comments about Zuma won’t take away Judge Nicholson’s verdict about your Pipe Smoking dim-wit.

    It should be difficult to (at long last) accept that your dim-wit is just a futile lame duck.
    By the way, you can go down the isles just to seek whatever quote (from the dead) may fancy your day and you should constantly wish and hope that they (the long goners) will come alive and rescue your manipulative wobbly hands not-to -be-ever trusted president. He dreadfully needs such redeemers.

    Homer Simpson once said, “Old people don’t need companionship. They need to be isolated and studied so it can be determined what nutrients they have that might be extracted for our personal use.”

    He’s simple saying don’t ever have any reliance on old dim-wit politicians; but if you still trust him then consider using that trust as your doorstop.

    Did I wish you and your pipe smoking dim-wit’s ill-fated future all the best in the up-coming festive season? If not, I’m now standing by yourside in these mesmerizing times…

    The censorship or flagging of comments not in favour of your & Pipe Smoking dim-views should ever continue.
    As George W. Bush would say, ‘you’re either with me or you’re my adversary’.

  2. Rowan Fischer Rowan Fischer 15 September 2008

    Spot on !!!

  3. Lebo Lebo 15 September 2008

    The incoming leadership is bigger than just Zuma as an individual as far as I understand. There has already been warnings from the COSATU than he needs to remember that Polokwane’s resolutions were and still are about the change, therefore unlike the native intellectual pipe smoker he unfortunately has to tread a very narrow line.

    If you are smart you would then realise that Zuma faces tougher challenges than Mbeki. What is likely to see him through though is to meet the expectations of the majority, not only those of the so called academics and the currently favourite economists. Zuma’s ascendance to power is Mbeki’s doing as I have mentioned earlier that if he had never targeted Zuma and other individuals in persuit of power ANC would have had a natural candidate not a victim candidate.

  4. Estie Estie 15 September 2008

    difficult to stay possitive…know nothing about politics but hoping someday it will be more about the people and children of our beautifull country and not about power anymore

  5. Sipho Sipho 15 September 2008

    Engage the role played by Penuel Maduna in this saga as articulated by the judge or just save us from your ignorant ranting. You’re embarrasing broer.

  6. Madoda Madoda 15 September 2008

    Sentlentse,

    Your hypothesis does not hold because the initial symptoms of a political conspiracy as established by the judgement stems from the bizare decision by Ngcuka (and Maduna) not to charge Zuma and Shaik together at the same time. You are selectively picking up the beginning of the plot when Zuma was fired.

    If your hypothesis is true (in any case) then Zuma is a very intelligent strategist that has not gone to school to have calculated how things were going to pan out. Furthermore, it would have required a very brave person to decide to be branded as a corrupt person and lure the prosecution to charge him and submit himself to public humiliation over years and hope that he would come out based on a technicality. If this is Zuma then he would be a brilliant and brave president for SA.

    To me, Mbeki is more suited as the one that engineered the conspiracy. I remember Mbeki and Steve Tshwete announcing on national TV that Phosa, Tokyo and Ramaphosa were plotting a coup against him so that their names were muddied in public before the ANC conference.

    Your love affair with Mbeki is turning your posts away from “thought leader” but towards “thought mis-leader”. Comparing Zuma to Mussolini and Hitler is far fetched. You are better off writing Mbeki’s political orbituary if you are going to be relevant for the future discussions about SA because Zuma will be president.

  7. Sentletse Diakanyo Sentletse Diakanyo Post author | 15 September 2008

    SIPHIWO, I have no doubt that you have capacity to rise above temptation to degenerate this debate into mindless mudslinging. Activate your mental faculties and lets deal with issues.

  8. Sentletse Diakanyo Sentletse Diakanyo Post author | 15 September 2008

    LEBO, I agree. Zuma will have a much bigger task on his hands. Certain unrealistic expectations of the poor have been raised before and after Polokwane. How he intends to speed up delivery to meet those expectations, given number of “challenges” facing local governments, would be fascinating to watch. Remember many promises were made on the knowledge that a budget surplus existed; but we have learnt a few weeks ago that that is no longer the case.

    All of us as South Africans have an expectation that the Zuma government would improve on work done by Mbeki’s government to provide a better life for all; that the would be continuation of sound macro-economic policies and respect for the independence of the Reserve Bank.

    Violent crime is the greatest concern of the majority of South Africans; as well as dehumanising levels of poverty. It is time that Zuma and his sidekicks begin to tell us how they intend addressing concerns and meeting hopes of the people.

  9. MFB MFB 15 September 2008

    Look, Sentletse, at last week’s Mail and Guardian, which contains a whole-page article expressing COSATU’s plans for the economy.

    Basically, they want to borrow-and-spend (Vavi has been calling for this over many years) so as to bribe their comrades, they want to cut interest rates to feed the current economic bubble and line the pockets of their corporate masters, and they want to crash the currency, to pretend that this will be a solution to our current account deficit. (It isn’t.)

    Zuma’s gang haven’t a clue what they are doing. They are like children who have suddenly been given control of the house and are declaring mandatory after-midnight bedtimes, free pizza for all and never having to change their socks.

  10. Siphiwo Qangani with kangaroos Siphiwo Qangani with kangaroos 15 September 2008

    Sentletse

    If you have read all my comments to TL contributors, you’ll find that I’m one of the most positive readers/contributors, but you constantly write comments that are observably dividing us into factions.

    ‘Mudslinging’ is exactly your day after day meal; you persist to post anti-Zuma, slant analysis ‘specifically’ towards the new ANC NEC, SACP, YPM, COSATU with their leaders ;and you act as if you’re objective or should I say ‘constructive’ whey you dig deep the cyberspace to retrieve whatever flattering comment you may find to tribute ‘your’ Pipe Smoking dim-wit.

    Surprisingly enough, you’ve got the pluck to blame, scare and censure me for ‘mudslinging’ or redirecting the debate into the drains…so untoward.

    As they say, “It’s not good to let any kid near a container that has a skull and crossbones on it, because there might be a skeleton costume inside and the kid could put it on and really scare you.”

    You need not to worry; from now on I’ll try to be politically correct when we debate about the pipe smoking dim-wit’s ‘indecent behaviours’.

  11. Lyndall Beddy Lyndall Beddy 15 September 2008

    Sentletse

    You give me hope. I always thought our people were not stupid, just because they are poor. If they blame Mbeki for lack of service delivery – and not everything on whites/colonialism despite a decade of Mbeki’s speeches – then they are not so dumb, or so easily indoctrinated.

  12. japes japes 16 September 2008

    Eish Sentletse. Time to let go I reckon. Thabo promised so much but just overstepped the mark, firing (including Mr Zuma) and re-shuffling more than a few competent people. Then being caught by the Eskom crisis (plus crime and illegal immigration) that destroyed the bouyant economy he boasted of. After consorting with Mugabe, he tried for a 3rd term while service delivery remained moribund, strangled by the political incompetents he’d infiltrated into the systems. Lots of dodgy deals to enrich pals happened during his watch.

    So a clever and seemingly competent man has fallen. RIP. Let’s see how the new broom sweeps.

  13. Tebza Tebza 16 September 2008

    Either Jacob Zuma committed perjury in his submissions to Judge Nicholson or the Minister of Defence was economical with the truth — which would be rather insulting to the trust and confidence with which the people of South Africa absorbed his statements. Only you were fooled by his statement. That statement by the minister was just to save mbeki’s face before polokwane.

  14. Sipho Sipho 16 September 2008

    Did you see your beloved leader in Mount Aiylief? He came to make promises that he couldn’t keep in 16 years in government. I don’t believe South Africa is governed, just go to any city centre and observe. There’s absolutely no enforcement of by-laws and yet there are thousands of people employed by the municipality.

  15. Lebo Lebo 16 September 2008

    All of us as South Africans have an expectation that the Zuma government would improve on work done by Mbeki’s government to provide a better life for all; that the would be continuation of sound macro-economic policies and respect for the independence of the Reserve Bank.

    What the mojority demands from Zuma is not the improvement or anthing resembling work done by Mbeki. They have demanded change of approach and policy meaning change of all the above. How he does that I guess we all have to wait until he is elected and privides us with his plans and policies which hopefully unlike Thabo’s are all inclusive.

    Unlike Thabo he has at his disposal people from business and Mandela to consult for advise. I personally cannot wait to see the Pahad brothers out of gevenment. He is going to have to be decisive as we are tired of the president who stands back when there are issues to first hear other people’s analysis before he says anything let alone act.

  16. Tman Tman 16 September 2008

    Sentletse

    …how many new vocabs that people (of your calibre) have attributed to JZ just to name the few:

    Please compare JZ’s latest name “Buffoon”: A buffoon is a fool. The term is used both to describe amusing, yet entertaining fools such as clowns, and people who publicly make fools of themselves, like inept officials. The term is also used more generally to describe someone who is foolish or clumsy. Generally speaking, one does not consider the term complementary unless one is a professional clown or jester. – (wisegeek)

    And Mbeki’s one: dimwit: a stupid incompetent person.

    Other name associated with JZ where no one has ever questioned them, may be they enjoyed the exploration of new vocabs.

    “Uninformed”: not informed; lacking in knowledge or information
    “Power hungry”
    “Rapists”
    “Hooligans”
    “Uneducated fool”
    “Opportunists”
    “Illiterate”

    Eish the list goes on. I have said all along that, play the argument not a man. Sentl…all you have to do is to prove that TM is not what people said he is. Same thing applies when we were defending JZ, we tried almost every trick in the book to prove that he is the “victim” of a dirty game. Now that the judge has said so, we are glad that we could read between the lines.

    If you are a film writer, you could write an excellent scene in that angle “Zuma:the architect of his political conspiracy”…good luck!

  17. Sipho Sipho 16 September 2008

    There is a Nigerian idiom that says”A fly that doesn’t take advice goes with the corpse to the grave”Obsessive compulsive support of anyone other than God is stupidity of the worst kind.

  18. Paul Hjul Paul Hjul 16 September 2008

    Its not a possibility; it is FACT
    Zuma has deliberately and systematically constructed a conspiracy theory. Consult the Selebi affidavit to the Pretoria High Court – it is clear that Selebi has no real love for Mbeki and quite clearly is in the “Zuma camp” (if such a thing exists). The various thieves are acting in cartel (either intentionally or by accident) to rob this country.

  19. Coen Coen 16 September 2008

    Nonsense, do you then allude that when the ANC came to power the same type of conspiracy was thought out by the ANC? I guess a lot of right wing supporters will love to agree with you that De Klerk was part of a conspiracy to sell out the country. Nonsense, I say again. Zuma is not sophisticated enough anyway.

  20. nzs nzs 17 September 2008

    The so-called political conspiracy has always been a medium of deflecting attention from the promiscuous buffoon’s legal woes. And since then, the phrase has become part of the Dimwitted Alliance partners’ daily vocabulary. You will recall that even when the promiscuous priest (who is now found smiling at the helm of the ANC) got charged with rape, many of his ardent supporters vehemently denied there was sexual contact between the not-so-chaste priest and his accuser, until the priest himself declared – much to every one of his supporters’ astonishment – that “it (sex) took place, but was consensual”. Dead silence, and then they realized that they had just gained the two-worded phrase into their vocab, and then they began chanting again in defence of their sex-crazed idol: “It’s a political conspiracy!”

    Does it not come as a surprise that, notwithstanding the stinging criticism from the judge towards the NPA, none of those who are already pompously claiming that they “told you so” is prepared to answer the question regarding whether or not their buffoonery idol has a case to answer?

    Of course, how do you expect them to delve deeper than what Vavi, Malema, Mantashe, Mbete and other similarly dimwitted ANC-SACP-COSATU partners tell them?

    I guess they will wait for another caricature to portray the fact that the case was declared invalid only on the basis of the NPA having denied the accused legal representations before being charged (admittedly, a bungle on the side of the NPA), and certainly NOT on the innocence of the buffoon, as Vavi and others brainwash them into believing.

  21. Hlabirwa Hlabirwa 17 September 2008

    Msholozi was not the head of the ANC intelligence for nothing.What Sentletse proposes is not beyond the man schooled in matters of cloak and daggers.
    One wonders though when did msholozi realise that T-man’s daggers were out for him taking into account their 30 years of consorting.
    Mkhuluwa must not even blink once for he might find himself in thestreet before the next five years are over.

  22. Lebo Lebo 17 September 2008

    @ Paul Hujl

    Wait until next year so you can take over “mshini wam” and sing it against Zuma. That will provide you with the platform to voice your so called “Facts” of the alleged systematic construction of conspiracy against TM.

    Good luck

  23. thabo thabo 17 September 2008

    That is so spot on.let’s see what happens when zuma moves in,at Union buildings.we will then see how many will still be loyal to,”champion of the poor”.An interesting year(2009) awaits.

  24. Babas Babas 17 September 2008

    I do not doubt that truth and reason will always prevail. Time is a friend of reason and truth.

    However my fear is that the costs we pay while waiting for reason to dawn on the eyes of the mentally blind is unbearable.

    One of the biggest reasons for the ills of the african continent is the corrupt and self serving leadership.

    From the slavery days up to now africa has been under the spell of such leaders and that continues to bring this rich continent down.

    Hope there will be more with reason in our continent than those without reason and foresight.

  25. sheuregie sheuregie 18 September 2008

    just like zimbabwe’s Tsvangirai, Zuma carries the hopes of South Africans. There has been a lot of polarisation and fear in South Africa because of Zuma’s trial , if ever Zuma was going to be jailed , all the hopes of a peaceful South Africa would have been shattered. You cant put someone on investigation for morethan two years, thats killing his political carrier. Zuma is the hero, the future leader of SA.

    SHEUNESU BARCELONA MPOFU, SOLUSI UNIVERSITY, ZIMBABWE

  26. Lyndall Beddy Lyndall Beddy 18 September 2008

    Africa’s problems has always been its leaders, from the time of slavery (when chiefs were happy to sell their captives and enemies), through colonialism (when tribal lands were set aside to STOP the chiefs selling them to the whites), to post-colonial African leaders and their elites, who continued to line their pockets and sell their peoples assets.

    This, of course, does not make African leaders any different to feudal Europe, or much of the East and South America.

  27. Frank Nnete Frank Nnete 18 September 2008

    Sentletse Diakanyo…se eng?

    Well argued.

    Without Mbeki-ing or Zuma-ring, allow me to ruminate…

    I know i should be inclined to give the learned Judge the benefit of the doubt but i’m struggling with the basis for the ‘activism’.

    Surely section 179 ss5(a) & 6 are disputed-hence the Commision…we all await final interpretation by Con court. Why select an interpretation of law brought in defence of the NDPP @ Ginwala?

    But even this interpretation creates problems for Nicholson; “(…)Therefore, the Minister’s powers of oversight are confined to those in the Act. As already discussed, these include the requirement that the Minister approve prosecution policy, and various duties on the NDPP to provide information and submit reports to the Minister. The act gives no power to the Minister regarding the exercise of prosecutorial discretion in individual cases(…)”. The judgement then proceeds to say it agrees with the summary of the above position.

    This said, How do u know Bulelani is not thanking the Minister for policy direction and proper reporting mechanisms. What do you mean they should have no relationship whatsoever…confusing (not yet malicious).

    Then there is the question of the dismissal of JZ as DP. It wasn’t correct argues Nicholson given the pending appeals by Shaik’s defence and the outstanding charges yet to be brought against JZ (bear in mind the Nicholson judgement also argues that its bizzare JZ isnt charged and that bribery is bilateral). Really? how does he know? Was he in those Cabinet meetings-which by the way consisted members of the then NEC and then President of the ANC. Does the learned judge also know what the then NEC’s view was on this matter? now think malice!?

    Tracking the Judge’s record i want to say this is exuberance rather than malice.

    Surely judicial interference in the political process should be no more desirable than political interference in the judicial process.

    This is one bilateral relationship we are best keeping at a minimum.

  28. Lyndall Beddy Lyndall Beddy 18 September 2008

    Frank

    You have your facts all wrong – read the judgement. I don’t remember that the firing of Zuma had anything to do with it – but I am not reading all 81 pages again.

    As for corruption being a bilateral crime – this does not mean that JZ is guilty, it means that there can be no corruptor without a corruptee, like there can’t be a bride without a bridegroom.

    Also Ncguka said at the press briefing that there was a prima facie case against Zuma. The judge said that if there was a prima facie case, Ncguka was OBLIGATED to charge Zuma as well as Shaik and at the same time.

  29. Molatelo Mathikithela Molatelo Mathikithela 19 September 2008

    I think bloggers like this Sentlenyane are just a waste of evrybody’s time. He is so dishonest with facts. Selectively he picks on issues that when skewedly presented have the potential to advance his arguement but conviniently ignore conventional wisdom in his arguement. If you as a writer take yourself seriously, how do you even begin to employ Terror Lekota as your authoritative source. It is common cause that before or in a period a period leading to Polokwane Lekota unsuccesfully manufactured many lies against JZ including dat JZ had shares in Nkobi holdings… He kept on threatening to expose JZ as a liar that he was, but such desperate threats were never followed by substantive evidence.
    Those who are questioning that Zuma has been saved from the trial on technicalities must ask themselves this question: What is justice?
    You need to further ask yourself, Can justice be served by only satisfying the requirements of substantive law without formal / procedural law?
    Justice is not merely getting one to the dock without due regard being given to formal law and claim to have done justice unless we talking justice out of ignorance.

  30. Frank Nnete Frank Nnete 19 September 2008

    Lyndall

    I read your response elsewhere on this site telling people to read the judgement because you didnt recall or agree with something. I dont know why this debate must move only as fast as your powers of recollection and understanding.

    Here’s an idea, if you’re not sure about something-dont respond until you are…

    In the interests of M&G server, housewives’ time management the world over and ofcourse, you not reading the same judgement you keep telling everyone else to go and read:

    See paragragh 158 of the Judgement-for JZ firing. I also refer you to Sam Sole’s article (only a page) from today’s M&G analysing the above(yes the self same sole quoted in Par 201).

    FYI you’re not OBLIGATED to prosecute if you have a prima facie case, fallacy…

  31. Suzainne de Kock Suzainne de Kock 20 September 2008

    It’s really so typical of “men” to think that they have all the answers without asking the most relevant questions.

    Gentlemen please halt your petty bickering and allow a lady a moment to pose the following question…and please be civil and factual in your response:

    1) JZ is not the most honourable of men…a known polygamist who went to court for having “consensual” sex with an unconsenting female…effectively cheating on his 5 lawful wives (or commiting adultery in biblical terms)

    2) JZ’s fraudulent accomplice and co-conspirator, the very sickly Shabir Shaik was arrested for being in a fraudulent relationship with the very same JZ…would be it be “honourable” to assume that any man in Mr JZ’s shoe to put themselves aside to allow others to run the race?

    3) Julius Malema…where do you begin? As a female involved with a Xhosa man for the past 5 years, I would ask…has this boy even gone to initiation school, that he feels the need to make utterances amongst honourable men? Mr. Malema should follow in the shoes of his predesessor, and not wait another 10 years because of the “needs of office”.

    4. Judge Nicholson? Judge Willem Heath? They really know how to pick them…Nicholson with his heavily politicised opinions (not judgements…no evidence was presented in this case to the effect of the final jugdement)in fact it makes me wonder, who helped the honourable judge with writing his opinion piece (Vavi or Blade???)…Heath with his well lined pockets, and as I am almost certain one of the perks of having Tokyo on the NEC because no one else has a cheque book the size of Tokyo that could buy Willem Heath’s “consultancy” expertise.

    Enough said on this topic…I think I will leave up to you boys to make the educated conclusions.

    Sentletse I loved your ‘piece’ by the way

  32. Lyndall Beddy Lyndall Beddy 20 September 2008

    Frank

    I listened to the whole of the judge’s reading of most of the judgement on TV, and I have downloaded the judgement to refer to if needs be. Maybe it was what he said, and maybe he deviated from the script, but it is rather academic now is it not?

  33. Frank Nnete Frank Nnete 22 September 2008

    Lyndall

    eat sugar and speak sweetly

  34. Lyndall Beddy Lyndall Beddy 23 September 2008

    Frank

    Listening to SAFM today the experts were AGAIN saying that the NPA is obliged by law to prosecute a prime facie case – and that one still exists against Zuma. Not my opinion – but theirs.

  35. Frank Nnete Frank Nnete 23 September 2008

    Lyndall

    You’re relentless.

    There may be mitigating circumstances to consider. The DPP or NDPP will make a decision based on various considerations in front of him/her-sometimes despite the existence of prima facie evidence-but always in the interests of Constitutionalism.

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