Michael Trapido
Michael Trapido

Civil war? Call out the army? Pass the spliff

Why is it that at the first sign of things getting hairy, the calls go out to send in the army? Does anyone actually think about the signal they’re sending to our fellow South Africans by deploying troops against these communities?

The current xenophobia problem in South Africa arises, primarily, out of the government’s failure to adequately regulate immigration and deliver on promises made to the electorate. This has occasioned widespread anger among our poorer communities who, in addition to their exisisting hardships, are bearing the brunt of seemingly endless waves of strangers arriving on their doorstep.

The South African Institute for Race Relations sets out nine causes they believe gave rise to the current crisis. It is a well thought out and logical analysis and certainly worth reading.

I fully endorse the observation that calling in the army is not a good idea but for a different reason. It will send out the worst possible message to our angry citizens and create enormous resentment. Put yourself in their shoes. You complain about unemployment, housing and crime and the government’s response to your outrage is to send in military force, rather than the answers to your grievances.

I’m not saying that a strong and swift response is not called for. Just that it should not come from your last resort at this point in time. Gauteng Premier Mbhazima Shilowa’s approach is correct ; this decision falls to the top police management (rather than hysterical politicians).

Instead of playing party politics, it’s time for our politicians to earn their wages. What is stopping all parties getting together as a matter of extreme urgency and agreeing which parties are best representative of each community? If it’s one party or a combination, send their representatives out to negotiate an interim settlement with individual communities.

If they can reach agreement it will open the door for the police to go in and hammer all rogue elements with the endorsement of the community. Identifying criminals as opposed to outraged citizens would then be a matter of course.

It is vital to reach an interim agreement along the following lines :

  • An immediate cessation of violence and confirmation that anyone who confronts the police will now be considered as hostile. In return, an undertaking from the government that it will revert within an agreed period of time on proposed solutions to the resident’s grievances.
  • All immigrants who are refugees will be required to live within a designated area agreed between the refugees, community and the police. Any refugee who simply erects a unit of whatsoever description outside the demarcated area will be removed by the police and taken to the designated area.
  • Because of fears of food shortages, the minister might advise the communities of contingency feeding schemes they envisage should the situation deteriorate further.
  • Communities and the refugees should put together an informal working arrangement on what jobs foreigners may or may not acquire from now on, or at least until the government has had time to work through this. For the moment everyone retains their existing jobs. This applies to new jobs.
  • All immigrants and refugees are to be advised of their current legal status in order to allow them immediate access to the police without fear of deportation. This must be relayed to the police as well.
  • While I’m sure this is a million miles from ideal and can be vastly improved upon, it will give locals and foreigners certainty.

    More importantly, with all parties in agreement , the police can then step in and hammer rogue elements and criminals. If you don’t do this you will land up with police arbitrarily trying to decide which are the criminals, the angry residents, and who are refugees who may be defending themselves.

    Both the courts and the police must be ruthless in rooting out the criminal element as well as denying bail to anyone who commits violence linked to the current xenophobia.

    Two points on capability:

    Our police are quite capable of dealing with crime and community policing if they are given clear directions from the politicians, and their resources are better managed. In one trial I ran in Johannesburg Court recently we were told how two and sometimes four policeman are sharing a vehicle at Meadowlands Police Station.

    Either we have the determination and resolve to deal with crime or we don’t. If we do, then we’d best start rethinking budgets and mandates to our long suffering policemen. I need hardly remind readers of the current decision to destroy the Scorpions rather than simply make changes in personnel to correct any perceptions of bias.

    Our security companies provide vast under–utilised resources which could assist the police. Warren Goldblatt, spokesman for Specialised Services Group, told me that “Methodology must be worked out in terms of a public and private partnership to utilise the resources of the private security and investigation industry which would vastly increase the capability to fight crime.”. In his opinion, this could well provide the short term solution to fighting crime overall. As a means of assisting the police, they could prove invaluable right now.

    Between them, and without calling out the army, we will be able to contain the violence. The last thing we need right now is to see the army patrolling the streets of South Africa because nobody can be bothered to speak to the communities and empower the police and private security.

    On an even less pleasant note, I appeared on the BBC on Monday night in order to put forward the views of South Africa’s poorer communities. While people were not unsympathetic, I was horrified to learn that our African brothers believe that we are ungrateful to Africa for their help during apartheid, snobs who complain about our jobs being taken by foreigners all the while turning our noses up at those jobs, and generally xenophobic to the rest of Africa.

    The guests, calls to the program from Africa, and even the emails kept going on about South Africans as stand–offish, intolerant of anyone who doesn’t speak our languages, and unwilling to integrate with the rest of Africa. Leaving aside the current problems, foreigners are snubbed, abused and ill–treated in South Africa. They believe that a lot of this stems from our ignorance of African and black civil rights leaders who played a significant part in African liberation.

    This was coming from countries all over the continent and sends a clear message to us all.

    The need to go about educating our kids about our continent is vital if we are to play a beneficial and meaningful role. The time has come for us to take a good hard look at ourselves in the mirror. If you think that you are superior to any person who is a different colour, nationality, language, culture, religion, sexual orientation, gender or howsoever, then the biggest doos at the funfair is you.

    As I keep hammering home the solution to other South African’s — and our guest’s — problems is a solution to one of our problems. If you think that having money or degrees or whatever else makes you supererior then best you get over yourself. There are stronger, brighter, better looking people all over the world. The only moron is the one who believes his own crap.

    Let us hope and pray that we can all come down to planet Earth so that we can start caring about and for each other, so that South Africa can be recognised for its humanity, not as the powerhouse of Africa. That is the greatest achievement of Nelson Mandela and Archbishop Desmond Tutu — that they are ascribed greatness for their achievements in the field of humanity and not in law, science or politics.

    If it’s good enough for them it’s good enough for us.

    • geejay

      We know that government and business corruption is central to this problem. The solution to this problem lies in the hands of the ordinary South African. We have to change; we have to do more for South Africans who do not have a chance at a better life right now. We can help to restore the dignity of our fellow South Africans. We must create more jobs. We must help others in order to help our country. Our fellow citizens also have the right to their dignity. What will we do to ensure that it is restored?
      As for this constant accusation from African countries about how they helped South Africans to stay in their countries during the apartheid era, please we understand that and are thankful, but at no stage did you have 10 million refugees storming into your country and taking your local citizens jobs on mass. The reality is that there are a large percentage of foreigners who are involved in crime, so do not talk down to South Africans. We support more economically active Zimbabweans in South Africa than Zimbabwe does or any of your economies do. Whilst the majority of you SADC leaders hug Mugabe and share strategies with despots our poorest citizens are paying the price for your ineptitude.

    • http://letpeoplespeak.amagama.com Lyndall Beddy


      “Take the army and liberate Zimbabwe”
      Great idea – but would have to be done under the auspices of SADC, AU or UN.

      I listened to Morgan’s spokesperson on SAFM yesterday. He says the terrorising going on is not the professional Zim army, but thugs in army uniforms which have been stolen and given to them. Could apply to the police as well. The professional army and police might even welcome Morgan.

      I have been invoved in a number of court cases. When in court there would be no time for anything else – dawn to midnight working with attorney and advocate.

      You are posting a blog a day, and keeping up with comments, and appearing on BBC. Are you still practicing or do you now do journalism professionally?

    • davef

      @Traps, @Geri “As a people we do not have any reason to think ourselves superior or inferior to anyone.” – that’s a straw man argument to evade trying to defend a piece of PC claptrap. I’m not really surprised, because your original contention is intrinsically indefensible. This one is also one of those silly statements that sounds good because it uses emotive semantics. ‘superior’ just means ‘above’ or in this context ‘better’ and ‘inferior’ = worse. And just what the hell are ‘a people’? An undefined grouping that means what the hearer wants it to? Now let’s try Traps’s high sounding straw man with non-emotive terms, and defined groupings: “As a football team we do not have any reason to think ourselves better or worse than anyone.”

      That may be very comforting to you this morning Traps, but it isn’t true. All football teams are not equal, and neither are all people or cultures. ‘All individuals – regardless of skin colour, religion, gender, wealth or orientation should be treated as equals before the law. We will permit that mental capacity and provable psycological illness are mitigating circumstances.’ THAT I will buy into. An individual claiming to be better than someone else merely on the basis of grouping (even if that grouping is Mensa) is merely a desperately insecure individual and an idiot to boot.
      Sorry to demolish the PC safety net, but ‘equality’, pass one, pass all are actually at the root of South Africa’s problems. I understand where it comes from out of racial discrimination, but to claim all individuals are equal is not only wrong, but removes all incentive, and doesn’t solve the problems of the past either. I am perfectly content to accept that another individual, who happens to be black, female and gay might be better at maths than me. But all people are not my equal. Some are better at some things and some are worse.

      Anyway to return – as you requested – to your ‘what should be done.’
      1)Set up fast – using the army (the army can and should be used for civil emergencies – not just combat. It is good for their status in society and good for society) if need be – a home affairs office at every township and squatter camp with the capacity to issue papers making all Zimbabweans refugees granted temporary asylum for 6 months and full work permits. This serves a number of purposes – firstly says to the violent perps “you’ve achieved the opposite of what you wanted.” It would also serve admirably to focus the world’s attention on the volume of the Zim refugee crisis, and prevent exploitation of zimbos – which will make labor competiton far more fair. And we assume the moral high ground, hard to assail. No job reservation!!
      2)Immediately ask the UN refugee agency to oversee the construction of OPEN refugee camps (which anyone with refugee status papers could access, and leave at will) and help with supervision and distribution within these camps. No group areas!!
      3)Dismiss, with immediate effect, the ministers responsible for the underlying problems. Home affairs, Education, and trade and industry would be my recommendation. Do it loudly and publically for failing to address the problems. Tell the public and the appointees that they have six months to achieve certain clear goals (which will help to deal with the underlying problems) or be fired in turn.
      4)Do an immediate show of force in the next potential trouble spot (and if Kasarils doesn’t know where that is, fire him too). A thousands strong military or police parade would – without conflict – make most people think twice.
      5)Use the footage of the incidents to clip ‘wanted and reward’ posters for as many individuals as faces can be identified.

      However this excercise is a waste of time as our dear leader and the present government have never yet met common sense or effective governance they couldn’t ignore, corrupt or claim was ‘racist’.

    • Michael Trapido

      I would just like to say how thrilled I am that Man United won the Champions League…I would like to but I’d be lying like a dog! Even the Valoid doesn’t touch sides with the nausea of watching Manure and their fans!

      My form I’ve now got to go into an office full of those dogs! I wonder if the president will let me use just a small platoon to shoot….

    • Michael Trapido

      Lyndall – I very seldom use advocates. I appear in High Court as well.

      My biggest problem as these editors will tell you is I exhaust people.

      At the moment I write for Thought Leader (my main blog) plus I am helping Nick van der Leek on My Rosebank to get it launched by writing articles from time to time


      and I will be writing Jake Whites Blog for him (chats to me…)


      (First item)

      In addition I am writing a book for South African Rugby Legends (SARLA) proceeds to grassroots with the mighty Riaan Wolmarans.


      I do my criminal cases.

      In between supporting the kakkest side in Premiership history, the Bucs, Proteas, Springboks and the magnificent Blue Bulls.

      And I read tons and tons and tons (mainly politics) every day.

      Oh and always answer immediately when the government (Mrs Traps) issues her daily orders….coming dear…

    • Trish

      If you’d said anything constructive in your post besides being sarcastically holier-than-thou about Traps’ attempts at finding workable solutions, I would perhaps have respected your opinion.

    • Alan

      Author: geejay
      Don’t be too surprised that others see you South Africans a little as we see Americans. You do display extraordinary arrogance in your dealings with smaller or weaker economies than yours. You use economic levers to manipulate your local trading partners in an attempt to un-even the playing field. You protect your COSATU monopolies and cartels by imposing tariffs on your competitors if they become too good for their own good. You manipulate and distort the Southern African regional marketplace to suit your own ends and you back-stab anyone who you perceive to be an economic threat.
      Sometimes its easier to see the truth from an outsiders perspective.

    • anton kleinschmidt

      Even in the most dire situations some people seem to be able to find an opportunity for humour.

      The following gem is from Essop “Monty Python” Pahad…..

      “We need to understand that xenophobia has historically been used by right-wing populist movements to mobilise particularly the lumpen-proletariat against minority groups in society.”

      “Lumpen Proletariat” is hot on the heels of Irwins “human instrumentality” as the zaniest political sound-bite of the past year.

    • Mandla

      Lyndall got something for Traps big time. Is possible not to be so blatant about it? Let the man make the world a better place. Stop trying to be Delila on Traps.

    • Chantal

      If you go and read on other sites (perhaps less elitist than this one) what some people are writing, you start understanding that sickening hate is the reality behind the all process. No political group is behind this avalanche of hate.What is happening now is a take over of law and order, a revolution created by a group of monstruous elements.
      If it was politically inspired, “they” would attack the rich in Sandton, or the rich foreigners, or the rich blacks in their 4×4…

    • Chantal

      Wherever I read, I do not see any organised help being put into place or asking for help.
      I believe that Medecins sans Frontieres, the Red Cross and others are involved…
      My friends in France want to help the REFUGIES.
      To whom can they send money?

    • Cool Down

      Looking at some pictures of the unruly crowds
      it appeared to me that they heeded your advice
      and indeed had passed the spliff.

    • http://- Anton

      Bruce, your comment was incredibly practical. This must be the wisest solution to the problem, at the moment, stated in a way that reveals that a bar-room education may be worth far more than some of the drivel we get from the “intellectuals”.

    • http://- Anton

      @ Bruce

      Agree with the rest but not so sure about Winnie though, her “Stompie”/Tyres/matches solutions are diabolical.

    • Chantal

      I must say that Bruce is saying loud what everybody is thinking in silence. Perhaps Winnie, after all, could be our next President.
      She is perhaps not OMO perfectly clean, but she could be perhaps better than somebody else who plays the race carte. And she is a WOMAN…I believe in the strength of a woman leader, not in the pathetique women / men-followers who are bleeding dry the country.


      The army is a tragic necessity to get back law and order. The question is – will they stand down when told to do so? They are not very happy chappies with the leadership.
      It is sad that it took such tragic events to get people really involved in their country. Martial Law.
      Bonginkosi – you are right. Our leaders do not know how to lead a country. All they excell at is sloganeering, creating new euphemisms, and words unknown in any Encyclopedia I have read.
      They are useless and leading us into destruction. I hope you will not put your X there once more.
      Where else? I know and agree. I have decided at very long last, to cast my vote [if still alive and kicking]
      for any bloody opposition party – to strengthen a truly weak opposition. If only more people would shock the ANC by actually “reducing their overwhelming majority. ” A good scare in this way JUST MIGHT have some effect and with luck and Divine Help – Wake up to the real world that is not as comfortable as theirs.
      As for Mbeki; who? He does not live in our RSA. We do not truly know him. He resides in his luxurious plane and on an entirely different planet ruminating on his African Renaissance. I did think, at the time, that he spoke this euphemism, that he was blowing bubbles into the wind. I am so right in hindsight.
      Incidentally, the borders are not patrolled by the army – the SAPS and I mean “saps” said they did not need them.
      Our borders were effectively controlled by the previous government with electric fences and Military.
      Human Rights violated? PC.
      If that enigma Mbeki, in his own wisdom, had not thrown out everything at once; clean sweep transforming and kicking out everything. ex-white ideas and skills – all at once – we will not be in the poo as we are at present. Sorry. But people need to be trained to be in charge. Poo falls downwards and we are in it.
      Motlanthe is a very wise man. Oh so insightful. He “says he needs to learn.” He is humble and to his credit. He refuses, in his wisdom, to believe in ‘his invincibility and know-all’ style of the little man who runs the disaster unfolding, whilst the lackeys slumber.
      Here is hope for the future – I hope!?? Or is he a voice in the wilderness of his party?
      As for our YOUTH.
      What can I say? They are a law unto themselves. Not prepared to work – that is for idiots. A nice Managerial Post with all the perks and a waBenzi – given courtesy Mbeki, would cease their demonstrations.
      Maybe Zuma with due pressure from ANCYL, who will toyi toyi for that RIGHT and ENTITLEMENT, oblige the thugs. Our illiterate youth should be forced to read ALICE in WONDERLAND because that is where they reside. Alternatively be compelled to attend a Camp that will teach them life’s reality and how to conform.
      Quo Vadis South Africa? Here is my scenario.
      I pray sanity prevails between Zulu and Xhosa Chiefs. The ANC is provoking the sleeping Dragon!
      Mudslinging is lethal to a Zulu’s inherent pride and dignity. Do not cause offence without justification!
      The Zulu will fight back – they have never, and will never run. They will fight until dead and die happily with honour. The youth will obey their culture.
      Do not provoke the Afrikaner pride – they fought the might of the British Empire with biltong, horses and a German rifle [forget the name of it- o.k. for me to forget, I am old.] Consulting Engineer will tell me no doubt.
      The Afrikaner has a “do or die” “maak n plan” mentality exactly – like the Zulu. They never surrendered to the bloody Rooinecks. Push them too far and they will instinctively revert to their ancestral memories. The middle aged men of today are highly trained, very disciplined soldiers.

      Do not wake the sleeping Tiger! and Dragon!

      “South Africa, the land, will drown in its own blood” –
      the words of CREDO. [I think Munto is his name and lives in the OFS]. He was forbidden in 1990 to speak anymore on this. My aging brain has never forgotten those words.

    • Bilal

      Your submissions always inspires me to throw in some comment. I like your style, i think you are always trying to come up with solutions to problems, i also think when ideas flow into your mind you go straight to the keyboard and start typing. Of course you never claimed to have done any research for what you say. your only shortcoming is that though you always ask for comments and suggestions you most of the time want to stick to your position.
      Now, what i mean by a researched article is, most of the time people confuse the words, immigrants(someone who comes from abroad to PERMANENTLY live in another coutry) and refugee(someone who has been FORCED to leave their country, espeially during war).We should also get to understand that both the two groups can either be in the host country either legaly or illegally. their status is determined by the question of whether their stay has been formalized by the relevant authorities, say home affairs. It is also worth understanding that some refugees…either out of sheer ignorance fail to notify govt officials of their stay. Others know quite well that being registered as a refugee means they cannot have some rights,eg of looking for employment in the host country so they will deliberately not register their status…and thereafter integrate themselves with any community that readily accomodates them.
      Again those immigrate, can be of legal or illegal status. Legal being when the govt knows of your intention to permanently stay in the host country…applying for citizenships or permanent residence permit. Illegal status at times comes with how one crossed into the host country-gazetted or ungazzeted point…and failing to renew residence permit,workpermit and or visa…either intentionally or out of ignorance.
      Now let me get to my point, Traps, our communities need to be educated on how to deal with both these groups. our communities are very accomodating but up to a point that they get overwhelmed by foreigners. Food for thought.
      Now concerning having separate communities for foreigners…NO! You risk a situation of people developing a spirit of entitlement,(if the foreigners can be provided with that why not us!), you fuel the same xenophobia you are trying to fight(Foreigners cant stay with us or cannot be amongst us) and this basically is a very short term solution.
      Now, did i hear anybody say south africa is a land of possibilities, yes, in fact the ad was flighted on TV minutes back, and it is flighted across all Africa! And somebody does not see this as inviting anybody down there?! So long term solution, do away with townships…No, not demolishing the whole lot but speeding up the distribution of land. every South African should be guranteed the right to own their own plot, shelter. BUT WHERE IS THE LAND! It is well available and the govt should wake up and with speed never seen before redistribute land, it is long long overdue. If i have my own demarcated and fenced plot nobody can just come and pitch up a makeshift house in my plot…which leads me to the conclusion that those who harbour illegal immigrants can be identified and the law can then take its course. Unlike a situation where people donot have traceable residential addresses…this then leads to the next point-if you come into RSA you should provide details of where you are staying. You should be traceable. Then illegal foreigners will easily be identified and because communities have been educated on how to treat foreigners nobody will complain. This education i envisage will focus mainly on the possibilities that abound in SA that bring people from as far as china to SA.
      Next, economic refugees from Zim.
      Traps where i accuse you of sticking to your convictions…it is a fact that sanctions have been imposed on Zimbabwe(read the Zimbabwe economy and Recovery Act of 2001)…I stated elsewhere that it is the ordinary citizens of Zimbabwe that bear the brunt of these sanctions! it is a well known fact that though we can be made to believe that there are targeted sanctions on certain individuals in Zim, we dont see them suffer anyhow as a result and we actually see mugabe still travelling to Europe, invited by a member of EU, we see Mugabe travelling to the UN. But the fact sanctions against any country only bring untold sufferings to innocent citizens. So please Michael while demonising ZANU PF, Mugabe and his associates lets also make the world to see how much sanctions are making Zimbabweans suffer. I am not a suppoter of Mugabe nor ZANU PF but i will die fighting fo the poor. Please never forget how the same innocent poor are dying as a result of an illegal blockade imposed by Israel on Gaza. Their only crime being to vote HAMAS into power. It hurts!

    • Cathy

      Traps and Gerry
      I wish you wouldn’t use that horrible ‘doos’ word.
      You know, I have one of them and it feels as if you’re degrading me.
      And that’s sexism, you know.

    • Chantal

      You can delete this comment when you finish reading it. I only want someone to know, go and look on the Citizen “what you say”
      Well spoken people, who speak good english, therefore educated scream for blood, some want 1000 dead…What is happening?

    • jose barreira

      Lyndall, you’ve been working late… are you in Aussie?

    • http://letpeoplespeak.amagama.com Lyndall Beddy


      Next question:
      When do you sleep?

      Another question:

      My daughter helps run a pub in london. It was full of Chelsea fans last night – and chaos broke loose. Broken furniture – white on white violence, beating up a guy in the parking area. My daughter and her partner climbed in – and threatened to close the pub and turn off the TV. It worked!

      Are you sure we want the World Cup in 2010?

    • John

      I agree with you that using the army is overkill, and it has already (even as a suggestion) hurt South Africa internationally. You make a number of good points. However, the idea of designated areas, as a number of respondents have said, reeks of past abuses that we would prefer not to revive.

      Much of the problem is 3,000,000 refugees from our neighbouring country to the north, which, unfortunately we have been at least partly responsible for, due to our president’s inaction. That means we do have a responsibility to them. But to put them in designated areas, whatever that means, is pretty much a continuation of that bankrupt policy. Either we continue it and accept the consequences of immigration, legal or not, or we change it. Of course if our economy were strong enough to absorb 3M refugees without conflict, things would be different. Pie in the sky would be nice also.

    • http://letpeoplespeak.amagama.com Lyndall Beddy


      The organisations doing the most are the Chritian Charity “The Red Cross” and the Muslim Charity “The Gift of the Givers”

      Also ALL he churches, mosques and synagogues.

    • http://- Anton

      4 Alan:
      Sometimes its easier to see the truth from an outsiders perspective.

      I heard it said; that when asking how a fish tank looks, don’t ask the fish !

      Also, sorry about our trade unionism’s bad regional effects. It too has resulted in increasing poverty over here, because it really only helps those who already have a job. There are no unions for the jobless because they can’t pay union fees.

    • Observer


      It funny how all those who were joining the chorus in condemning Zim election violence suddenly lost their tongues when SA took over ! Its all about forming subcommittes etc etc…And most comments are more concerned about ‘EUROPEAN TV’s airing the violence, not about protection of human life.

      Its now 42 dead and probably rising, if the army is overkill, at what headcount should a normal country turn to the army, 100, 250, 1000, 10 000 maybe ? It would be interesting if the targeted were fair skinned, East Europeans for example….would the comments be the same ?? Mind you some genuine locals Vendas are victims too…I thought as much…..this is only the beginning….and judging be the inequality etc issues, those days may well be on their way, except, the migrants will no longer be there to provide a soft target..

    • Chantal

      On one picture of the man burning we see the broad SMILE of a cop watching.
      This is not a picture of the Mail & Guardian as the heads of the people on their photos are cropted.
      Since the whole world is already OUTRAGED by this barbary, perhaps M&G should not try to protect the monsters or It will be associated with their dids.
      Now that the involvement of the police into the so-called xenophobia becomes more apparent as days pass, I think it is time the public start to know the truth…as one picture is better than 1000 words.

    • http://letpeoplespeak.amagama.com Lyndall Beddy


      Traps has every right to support the ANC.
      I have every right not to.

      It is called democracy.

      I have every right to ask him “why”
      He has every right to ask me “why”

      It is called debate

      Can you grasp either concept – or do you believe in hero worship and blind loyalty?

    • Chantal

      Up to now I did not have a name to call Them.I called them “they” or whatever…
      I came accross a word this morning that jumped into my mind and it just stood there in all its clarity.
      The Word is HYENAS. This name is the one I am going to call Them when I will be telling about Them.
      In French, a hyena is called a “hyene”, a word very closed phonetically to the word “haine” which means “hate”.
      The Hyenas are not stopping, too stupid to see that the world spit on them.
      And the World hangs its head in shame…What have we done? we have liberated hyenas…

    • Oldfox


      The Boer rifles were the Mauser model 94 & model 95, deadly at long ranges.

      The Zulu seer is Vusamazulu Credo Mutwa