Sentletse Diakanyo
Sentletse Diakanyo

Jews do wield immense power and influence

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  • Sentletse, be careful where you dip your pen
  • Anti-Semitic conspiracy theories have abounded for centuries
  • In 2002 Mark Weber, a director of The Institute for Historical Review wrote an article about the powerful Jewish Lobby in the United States (US). What Weber articulates in his article is very relevant to the current brouhaha about the alleged comments made by the Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs, Fatima Hajaig. As a result of those alleged comments, the Deputy Minister has now been vilified and accused of anti-Semitism, hate speech, bigotry and all manner of things that are intended to whip up the emotions of the Jewish community and social activists and inflate her comments beyond what they truly represented. In his article Weber beautifully outlines how Jewish money influences and controls the US Congress.

    The Deputy Minister is alleged to have said: “They in fact control [America]. No matter which government comes into power, whether Republican or Democratic, whether Barack Obama or George Bush. The control of America, just like the control of most Western countries, is in the hands of Jewish money and if Jewish money controls their country then you cannot expect anything else.”

    It is important to examine whether there is any measure of truth to claims by detractors of the Deputy Minister that she had indeed been anti-Semitic. A common understanding of anti-Semitism would generally refer to prejudice against or hostility towards Jews, although the appropriate meaning is not limited to Jews. I would immediately dismiss as utter rubbish claims that the above comments by the Deputy Minister are prejudicial against and hostile towards Jews. Moreover, these comments have no relevance whatsoever to Jews in South Africa.

    The SA Jewish Board of Deputies is reported to have lodged a complaint against the Deputy Minister with the SA Human Rights Commission (SAHRC). Wendy Kahn, who is a director of the SA Jewish Board of Deputies, is also reported to have said that the alleged comments by the Deputy Minister were classic anti-Jewish stereotyping and conspiracy-theory mongering, which were typically used by those seeking to portray Jews as scheming, manipulative and disloyal to the countries in which they lived. In her tirade against the Deputy Minister, Kahn went further to state that, “the Jewish community is outraged by such a public display of bigotry by a senior government representative. As South African citizens, we cannot allow this kind of comment to be brought into this country”.

    The action by the SA Jewish Board of Deputies is an abuse of such national institutions such as the SAHRC. The SAHRC has a constitutional mandate to promote the protection of human rights of citizens of South Africa. Unless the SA Jewish Board of Deputies regards those South African Jews they represent as Westerners, their much-reported tirade is misguided and appears to be a publicity-seeking stunt.

    The temptation after reading newspaper headlines and listening to the SA Jewish Board of Deputies go off at a tangent would be to lambaste and condemn the Deputy Minister and opportunistically rally behind the Democratic Alliance’s Tony Leon who called for her head and demanded her to apologise to the US President Barack Obama. Tony Leon may perhaps plead ignorance to Obama’s speech at the AIPAC Policy Conference when he said, “Those who threaten Israel threaten us. Israel has always faced these threats on the front lines. And I will bring to the White House an unshakeable commitment to Israel’s security … I will ensure that Israel can defend itself from any threat — from Gaza to Tehran … As president, I will implement a Memorandum of Understanding that provides $30-billion in assistance to Israel over the next decade.”

    Given this unequivocal support of Israel none of us should impose the Deputy Minister’s confidence on Obama’s administration, or any other before. The behaviour and over-reaction of the SA Jewish Board of Deputies is tantamount to fear mongering and a despicable attempt at playing victim to some invented threat to their dignity and human rights. The question we should all ask is whether or not Jews wield immense power and influence in the US. By answering this question we would arrive at an informed conclusion on whether these absurd attacks on the Deputy Minister are warranted instead of immediately dismissing them as I have.

    Benjamin Ginsberg, a Jewish author and political science professor, in his book he published in 1993, The Fatal Embrace: Jews and the State, said that, “Since the 1960s, Jews have come to wield considerable influence in American economic, cultural, intellectual and political life. Jews played a central role in American finance during the 1980s, and they were among the chief beneficiaries of that decade’s corporate mergers and reorganisations.”

    Mark Weber also wrote that, “though barely 2% of the nation’s population is Jewish, close to half its billionaires are Jews. The chief executive officers of the three major television networks and the four largest film studios are Jews, as are the owners of the nation’s largest newspaper chain and the most influential single newspaper, the New York Times … The role and influence of Jews in American politics is equally marked.

    Jews are only 2% of the nation’s population, yet comprise 11% of what this study defines as the nation’s elite. However, Jews constitute more than 25% of the elite journalists and publishers, more than 17% of the leaders of important voluntary and public interest organisations, and more than 15% of the top ranking civil servants.”

    Seymour Lipset and Earl Raab, both Jewish writers, agree with the assertion that Jews in the US wield disproportionate political power and validate the alleged comments by the Deputy Minister. In their 1995 book, Jews and the New American Scene, they say that “during the last three decades Jews (in the US) have made up 50% of the top two hundred intellectuals … 20% of professors at the leading universities … 40% of partners in the leading law firms in New York and Washington … 59% of the directors, writers and producers of the 50 top-grossing motion pictures from 1965 to 1982, and 58% of directors, writers and producers in two or more prime time television series.”

    Instead of condemning the Deputy Minister she should have been commended for her will to trounce the preservation of falsehoods and expose these self-evident yet unspoken and vexing truths about the influence and power of Jews in America. There is this fear to speak truth to power that is prevalent everywhere and so is the risk present of having one’s voice silenced with a nauseating anti-Semitism card. It is those of robust constitution who, regardless of the awful consequences of revealing these truths, rise above feeble others who allow suppression of their voices. Criticism of Jews has far too often triggered a backlash of unimaginable proportion, a sign of ingrained intolerance to robust and unflattering appraisal.

    The SA Jewish Board of Deputies should perhaps inform the rest of us, who struggle to see hate, anti-Jewish stereotyping and conspiracy-theory mongering in the alleged comments of the Deputy Minister, whether the US congress is not biased towards Israel; whether they disagree with Dr. Stephen Steinlight, Fellow at the Centre for Immigration Studies in the US when he says, “… we (Jews) will continue to court and be courted by key figures in Congress … power is exerted within the political system from the local to national levels through soft money and especially the provision of out-of-state funds to candidates sympathetic to Israel …”; and whether Hamas possesses the capacity to destroy Israel.

    The Archbishop Desmond Tutu also lamented this intolerance to criticism that pervades a larger section of Jewish communities when he said, “The Israeli government is placed on a pedestal [in the US] and to criticise it is to be immediately dubbed anti-Semitic.”

    The SA Jewish Board of Deputies needs to get over themselves!

    • David Brown

      Enough already- the world is on the brink of economic crisis requiring strong progressive responses and here is a South African taking time out to find a global scapegoat. Seek explanation and understanding do not compound prejudiced perceptions of langstanding sterility. The Four riders of the apocalypse will be on the plains and you will have chosen to point a false finger at a mythical foe.Vukani Umfowethu!Use your freedom to advance your freedom not to tie up another.

    • Immortal

      Sentletse

      WHAT IS COPE’S STANCE ON THE CONFLICT IN THE MIDDLE EAST?

    • http://thoughtleader.co.za/sentletsediakanyo Sentletse Diakanyo

      On June 9 1967, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee met to discuss ways to pressure Israel at the time of the Six Day War. The committee was chaired by Senator J. William Fulbright who said, “…they (Jews) know they have control of the Senate politically, and therefore whatever the Secretary tells them, they can laugh at him. They say, ‘Yes, but you don’t control the Senate.'”

      The US secretary of state to President Dwight D. Eisenhower, John Foster Dulles said, “I am aware how almost impossible it is in this country to carry out a foreign policy [in the Middle East] not approved by the Jews….. terrific control the Jews have over the news media and the barrage the Jews have built up on congressmen …. I am very much concerned over the fact that the Jewish influence here is completely dominating the scene and making it almost impossible to get congress to do anything they don’t approve of. The Israeli embassy is practically dictating to the congress through influential Jewish people in the country”

      In 2001, Isreal Prime Minister Ariel Sharon informed Shimon Peres that, “Every time we do something, you tell me Americans will do this and will do that. I want to tell you something very clear: don’t worry about American pressure on Israel; We, the jewfish people, control America. And the Americans know it.”

      I would assume that Senator Fulbright, Secretary Dulles and Arial Sharon were dispicable anti-semites!

    • Richard P
    • Robert Szabo

      What is Cope’s position on the remarks made by the deputy minister?

      Can we take you word as the official position, or are you out of line with your own party?

    • SZ

      This is a mean and misleading article. The statistics are carefully selected to portray Jews as conniving. Some of the sources are racist, and no context is provided. Statistics about e.g. the disproportionate contribution of Jews to the civil rights movement in America are also not provided.

      The article is unfair and hurtful towards Jews. Compare how hurtful an unfair article about black control of America would be towards black people. The article could also cite racist sources, and note powerful African Americans such as Powell and Rice (who played a big role in the criminal war in Iraq) and Obama (there has never been a Jewish president). There is also far more criticism of Israel in America than there is of the many African regimes that commit crimes far worse than those Israel is accused of.

      The reason many Americans support Israel is not because of Jewish connivance or power. Americans aren’t stupid. Despite patronizing stereotypes to the contrary and the embarrassment of Bush, Americans are generally far better educated than South Africans, and are exposed to far more, and far more various media. I have lived and taught in various countries, including South Africa and America, but anyone can understand this given the poverty in South Africa.

      Rather Americans think that Israel’s cause is just, and that the cause of Hamas is unjust.

    • Phil

      Yes Sentletse, if this is what they said, these are indeed untrue and anti-Semitic comments. Since when do the Jews control the US senate or the congress or even the media for that matter. Its just bigoted nonsense man.

    • C Volpe

      The three quotations above don’t prove anything. For these to be given any credence you would have to present them in their correct context, and importantly, argue for the speaker’s intention, and even then, a swallow or three wouldn’t make a summer. What your writing does prove however is an inclination to bigotry – the context is evident, your intentions, enthusiastically expressed, are blatant.

    • http://thoughtleader.co.za/sentletsediakanyo Sentletse Diakanyo

      PHIL, your denialism is astounding!

    • http://thoughtleader.co.za/sentletsediakanyo Sentletse Diakanyo

      IMMORTAL, this is what COPE said regarding the current Middle East conflict:

      “There can be no justification for the wanton killing of civilians in particular women and children who are the worst affected by Israel’s military escalation.

      We join the international call for Israel to immediately stop its assault on Gaza and the collective punishment of people of that territory.

      We also call for an end to all attacks on innocent people in Israel.”

      NB: I’m not a COPE spokesperson, and the views expressed on this blog are mine and mine alone.

    • Paul Whelan

      Those of you who have managed to stay with this so far will have noted that Sentletse’s invariable mode of proceeding is to adopt an inherently improbable position on a subject and, by way of sustaining it, to quote someone else who appears to agree with him.

      In this instance he advances the superficially similar opinion of some 6 souls and, since there are at last count some 6 billion in the world, the conclusion must be that the odds for Sentletse’s success in any argument imaginable lie very heavily in his favour, especially as he does not hesitate, when necessary, to enlist the authority of the dead to support the living.

      It is a popular – indeed, populist – approach. It has the advantage of making it entirely unnecessary to do any thinking or to look at any facts whatever. In this manner Mbeki was never an Aids denialist – Ronald Suresh Roberts and Mbeki himself can be quoted to prove it; Zuma is innocent – half the ANC say so; and Zuma is guilty – the other half of the ANC say so; everyone should abstain in the next election -Archbishop Desmond Tutu said he would; and there is no crisis in Zimbabwe – Mbeki made that clear publicly (funny how that name keeps coming up quite naturally here).

      With such dire precedents in mind, readers still sceptical enough to doubt that ‘Jewish money’ does control ‘America and most western countries’ must prepare themselves for an extremely long and monotonous journey.

    • Kit

      Sentletse, admit that you have painted yourself in a corner and you’re now frantically googling away to try and see how long it it till the varnish dries on the floor.

      Your quotes above are proof of that. Ariel Sharon told someone that the Americans were ‘under control’ and ‘behind them’. Well, we pretty much know that they are to an extent and we also know that people will say things like that to boost the confidence, e.g. of troops. He’s hardly likely to say, ‘Well mate, I’ll have a chat and see but you guys just go out. We’ll send backup if we get any but I don’t really know…’

      As for quotes from the sixties, let me tell you that there you are digging a grave for yourself of the Mark Weber variety. Perhaps also you would like to quote respected scientists of that age, people whom we quote on other matters, who drew up treatises on the wondrous superiority of the white race and the subintelligence of black people? Rather just back off now, this is beyond a joke.

      Themba, I think that you may want to reconsider your views on African detractors. Many of the people commenting here and arguing with Sentletse have not shown much love for the state of Israel in previous posts. I for one deplore the actions of the Israeli government and believe that they should be punished for their absolutely inhuman actions in Gaza. That means that I criticise the government of Israel and have little good to say about them. But at the same time, the government of Israel is not ‘every Jew’. For someone to attack all people of Jewish descent on this ridiculous crusade to prove that they are ‘influential’ and thus should be cut down to size is abhorrent.

      Thus it is also with the ANC. A person may criticise the ANC and its current policies, a person may criticise Jacob Zuma in his position as head of that organisation. But for a person to go ‘all African people think this’, ‘all African people do this,’ and criticise all Africans because there are some individuals and groups that they disagree with – that’s despicable racism.

      That is what this article is. It doesn’t criticise the state of Israel nor the government, nor individual politicians, nor the army. It criticises Jews who, by virtue of the accident of birth, apparently are all ‘too powerful’. Historically, this is the exact same rhetoric used by the Nazis to sway public opinion away from a natural horror at the idea of the extermination of an entire people. And furthermore, it is intended as a defence of Fatima Hajaig, who added her aleged anti-semitic comments to a whole rally full of others, some far worse. What she said cannot, in context, be defended – but yet Sentletse tries, in his inimitable manner. Perhaps she is on the COPE gravy train soon as well?

      Let me also add, Sentletse, that in some of your previous articles you have spoken in such a manner that appears almost designed to make yourself an informal COPE spokesman. You have done them an immense disservice by so doing and not providing enough clarity at the time, as it clear from some of the commentary here.

    • http://thoughtleader.co.za/sentletsediakanyo Sentletse Diakanyo

      Jewish Senator, Joe Liberman said, “Everything that President-elect Obama has done since election night has been just about perfect, both in terms of a tone and also in terms of the strength of the jews names that have either been announced or are being discussed to fill his administration.”

      Obama’s cabinet is dominated by Jews (62%), and here is the list of appointments:

      Secretary of State: Hillary R. Clinton (Jew)
      Secretary of Treasure: Timothy F. Geithner (Jew)
      Secretary of Defence: Robert M. Gates (Jew)
      Secretary of Interior: Ken L. Salazar (Jew)
      Secretary of Agriculture: Tom J. Vilsack (Jew)
      Secretaryof Health and Human Services: Tom A. Daschle (Jew)
      Secretary of Housing and Urban Development: Shaun Donovan (Jew)
      Secretary of Education: Arne Duncan (Jew)
      Secretary of Homeland Security: Janet Napolitano (Jew)
      White House Chief Of Staff: Rahm Emanuel (Jew)
      Attorney General: Eric H. Holder
      Secretary of Labour: Hilda L. Solis
      Secretary of Transportation: Ray H. LaHood
      Secretary of Energy: Steven Chu
      Secretary of Veterans Affairs: Eric K. Shinseki
      Secretary of Commerce: vacant

      Would it be racist and hate speech to say African-Americans control and influence U.S. government if they were the majority? Denialism is your prerogative. Facts are everywhere for anyone to see. I find it more ridiculous for some to suggest that I should apologise for stating the truth. Interpret the truth as you please, no person shall deny you your freedom to be insecure, however irrational. But do not impose your insecurities and irrational fears on others and assume them to have evil intentions when highlighting self-evident truth.

      This is where my contribution ends on this subject!

    • Jon

      Your list of “Jews” in the Obama cabinet is factually inaccurate.

    • S.P.van Niekerk

      Thank goodness for the Jews – where would the world (as SA have been) without them.

    • Johan van Tonder

      I think you wrote an excellent article, and it is sad that most people in the world are totally unaware of Jewish money-power because most of the mass-media in the world are largely controled by them. Thank God for the Internet.

    • Paul Whelan

      Sentletse

      Your ‘contribution ends’ on the note with which it started – with a pervasive whiff of racial prejudice.

      For only prejudice finds anything remarkable in the fact that 62% of Obama’s cabinet are Jews.

    • Kit

      Interesting that your ‘contribution’ on this subject ends with the yellow star. Incorrectly applied from the ‘could I move to Israel’ test in some cases. But let that not daunt you.

    • http://www.tac.org.za Nathan Geffen

      I wrote a response to this which was published in the Cape Times today. You can find it here:
      http://www.sashrip.org/node/25

    • SZ

      The very beginning of Sentletse’s list of Jews in the cabinet is innaccurate. He says that Hillary Clinton is Jewish! But she belongs to the United Methodist Church, and anyone can easily check this up.

      Maybe Sentletse should keep at it – the more he writes the more he exposes himself.

    • http://mandrake.amagama.com Mandrake

      SZ on February 2nd, 2009 at 9:44 pm

      “Americans are generally far better educated than South Africans, and are exposed to far more, and far more various media”

      Can you back up above with facts please, i’d love to see the stats.

    • Frank Nnete

      Despicable Lyndall,

      Noticed your interplay between Saks’ & Diakanyo’s blogs…Rightwing links? This is a new low even for you.

      As for your defence of the SAJBD condoning and even outrightly supporting Apartheid-unbelievable! So what were black Africans, collateral damage?!

    • http://thoughtleader.co.za/sentletsediakanyo Sentletse Diakanyo

      In January the U.S. senate passed a resolution promoted by AIPAC intended to effectively endorse the continuation of the Israeli military assault in Gaza. You can find the resolution here:
      http://aipac.org/Publications/SourceMaterialsCongressionalAction/SenateRes.pdf

      We all know that the U.S. vehemently opposed the UNSC resolution that called for ceasefire in Gaza; and they ended up abstaining from endorsing the resolution. As it has always been the case, Israel ignored the UNSC resolution and continued with genocide against the Palestinin people in Gaza. The U.S.’ silence was deafening as Israel went on violating the UNSC resolution. It therefore does not require one to be a rocket scientist to understand what the Deputy Minister was saying.

      (Thanks to Google, the truth cannot be hidden)

    • anton kleinschmidt

      In his post SD lists 16 members of the cabinet as being jewish. It seems this is factually incorrect and only 2 of them are actually jewish.

    • http://kwerekwere.blogspot.com mundundu

      it’s really looking like senty is going to stormfront and getting his info. which is fine. while i don’t think the 62% bit is accurate, if, and as kit and i have already pointed out, it seems like these numbers are based on the “aliyah” test, which is the same reason, as i’ve stated, that you can now get pork in tel aviv. [see, all of those russians — the people — are about as jewish as, well, hilary clinton].

      it’s clear that few people posting on this forum followed the 2000 ny senate race in which clinton herself said that she shook her family tree and found some jews there. [barely paraphrasing]

      she wouldn’t have needed to do that if appealing to, and showing her self to be a friend to, those who are “friends of israel”.

      napolitano, btw, is a suspect surname. there’s a “jewish red flag” in the name. although, the “winer” and “roth” in her mother’s line don’t help much either. the stormfront people may have gone with the preponderance of the evidence, and run with it.

      mandrake —

      im going to have to roll with the americans being better educated than south africans. [collectively speaking.] it is killing me that i can’t afford to send my child to the american school — he goes to a south african school that is considered one of the best in cape town and i am appalled by what passes for an education there.

    • SZ

      Mandrake,

      I have my experience of teaching in both SA and the US. But this is something that should be rather unsurprising given the poverty in South Africa and how it affects the schools (just look at what’s required for passing matric examinations, and what the pass rate is). Also the media in the US is much more diverse than in SA.

    • SZ

      Some more information about Sentlentse’s alleged list of Jews in the US Cabinet:

      Hillary Clinton is not Jewish – she belongs to the United Methodist Church
      Robert Gates is not Jewish – he is Christian
      Tom Daschle is not Jewish – he is Catholic
      Janet Napolitano is not Jewish – she is Methodist
      Tom Vilsack is not Jewish – he is Catholic
      Ken Salazar is not Jewish – he is Catholic

      I haven’t found information about the religion of some of the others listed as Jewish. But this is enough to show that the majority of people listed as Jewish by Sentletse are not Jewish. His sources – including racists – are indeed suspect. More generally, as Mr Whelan points out, if anything Google turns up is to be trusted, then we should believe anything and everything.

      But Sentletse still ignores the fact that the president of the US is African American, whereas there has never been a Jewish president; that Powell and Rice are African American, and had a big role in the criminal war in Iraq; that there is far more criticism in the US and beyond of Israel than there is of the many African regimes that commit crimes that are far worse than those Israel stands accused of.

      Should we conclude from this information wrenched out of context – perhaps with some quotes from the Ku Klux Klan – that black people have too much power and wealth? Only a racist bigot could agree with this. But this is precisely the sort of reasoning involved in this article.

    • Paul Whelan

      Nathan Geffen

      I read your response in the CT.

      The troubling point, though, about the one here remains: not how ‘inaccurately’ it was written, but why it was written.

      Is it wanton provocation? youth’s absence of judgement and sensitivity? lack of all historical knowledge?

      David Bullard fell into the same pit.

    • Steve

      Your list of Jewish senators, etc is embarrassing.
      Most of your names aren’t even Jews. You really thought Hillary Clinton was Jewish?

      Google obviously isn’t working very well for you.

    • Ronald Johnson

      For what it’s worth from the US, no candidate for President, the Senate or the House of Representatives has won against Jewish opposition, since the 60’s. Is that control? Well, a contributing factor is the ideological support of apocalyptic US christians. For references google Paul Findlay, Charles Percy, Cynthia McKinney, Earl Hilliard, William Fulbright. The America- Israel Political Affairs Committee (lobby) brags of that effectiveness in their fundraising circulars.

    • Kit

      Thanks to Google, we know (if we didn’t know already) that SA has blocked some absolutely vital resolutions designed to stop killing in other nations. So the US is not alone. I’m tempted to tell you to stop throwing stones because you’re living in a plate-glass wonderland but it really can be entertaining at times.

    • Moje

      Why no comments about a brilliant analysis by Steven Friedman:

      Meanwhile, political analyst Steven Friedman was quoted by Business Day as saying on Thursday said that while the statement by Hajaig was “ill-advised”, the South African Jewish Board of Deputies’ complaint was a red herring and the board was diverting attention from the real issue.

      “What we should really be talking about is the aggressive campaign to camouflage the attempt by the Israelis to cower the Palestinians into submission.”

      He said the real human rights issue was that Israel was “destroying what may be the only democratically elected government in the Middle East with the exception of Lebanon”.

      “If the South African Jewish Board of Deputies was as concerned about the deaths of more than 1 000 innocent Palestinians as they are over a foolish remark of a junior minister, I would take their claims about concern for human rights more seriously.”

    • http://letpeoplespeak.amagama.com Lyndall Beddy

      Frank

      I don’t think you even know what the Board of Deputies does. It is a welfare and cultural organisation, not a political party. Makes sure no widows or orphans are unprotected, assesses temple dues for charity etc.

      I was phoned once by one of my opposition to assess another opposition member and asked how well I thought my opponent was doing financially – to which I replied that I thought he was doing much worse than he pretended. The deputy agreed. The purpose of the phonecall? Not to assess his contribution to charity higher than he could afford.

    • Don Banks

      When one of the most powerful militaries in the world is slamming ordinance into an area of dense population, defended by one of the weakest militaries in the world, is it not fair to wonder why there is not a peep of criticism coming from American politicians? – the same folks with a pretence to world leadership (“the world’s only superpower”, and all that). They had a lot to say about Russia’s incursion into Georgia. Georgia’s initial provocation killed more people than all the Hamas rockets, but Russia’s response, although less extensive and less bloody than Israel’s against Gaza, was decried as disproportionate and excessive. With the exception of several actual mavericks (not phony mavericks like John McCain), does the near entire U.S. Congress like what Israel did in Gaza?

    • BLACKLISTED DICTATOR

      If Sentletse is an internet “Thought Leader” spokesperson for Cope, the above editorial will have done the political party that he supports immeasurable harm. Although his anti-zionist/anti-semitic line might win some votes in The Cape, it is not a long term political strategy. It is not based on decency, morality, or facts. It is instead based on racism, immorality and transparent lies.

    • Alan

      Now imagine we were to say that black people are incompetent – on the basis that some black people are incompetent and there are many failing Afican governments. Does that mean there’s enough truth in it not to be called prejudicial?

      You know the answer to that.

      The deputy ministers statement is a restatement of the protocols of the elders of zion conspiracy theory. The difference between saying Jews have a powerful influence on US politics and saying that they control the US is not the subtle distinction you’re trying to make out. It’s the difference between a political fact and a wild, racist prejudice designed to invoke fear of Jews.

      And that has all the bearing in the world on South African Jews. It says that their government buys into the mad conspiracy theory that had Jews used as a scapegoat in christian countries for centuries – frequently with terrible consequences.

      Please South Africa. NASA really did land men on the moon. Vaccines do not cause autism. HIV does cause AIDS. And Jews do not have a sinister agenda to control the world.

    • http://letpeoplespeak.amagama.com Lyndall Beddy

      Frank

      The Muslim charity “The Gift of the Givers” and the Christian charity “The Red Cross” also stay out of politics.

      So why this unreasonable expectation of the Jews, who are only 3% of our population and could do little anyhow.

    • BLACKLISTED DICTATOR

      Senteletse,
      There are times when the best of us make terrible mistakes. If you want to retain some credibilty, it might be a good idea to publish an apology.
      You have made too many “errors” and you should just have the common decency to say.. “Guys, I’m really sorry.”

    • Danya

      Sentletse, perhaps you haven’t realised that you (and the Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs) are anti-Semitic because you’ve misunderstood the meaning of the word “prejudice”, as in your own definition as follows: “A common understanding of anti-Semitism would generally refer to prejudice against or hostility towards Jews, although the appropriate meaning is not limited to Jews.”

      If you look in a dictionary (you could even try Google!) you will find the following definitions:

      prejudice [prej-uh-dis]:
      – Any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favourable or unfavourable.

      – Irrational suspicion or hatred of a particular group, race, or religion.

      – Detriment or injury caused to a person by the preconceived, unfavourable conviction of another or others.

      – A partiality that prevents objective consideration of an issue or situation.

      – An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts.

      – A hostile opinion about some person or class of persons. Prejudice is socially learned and is usually grounded in misconception, misunderstanding, and inflexible generalisations.

      prej•u•diced, prej•u•dic•ing, prej•u•dic•es
      – To cause (someone) to judge prematurely and irrationally. See Synonyms at bias.

    • Oldfox

      Lyndall,

      First colonizers from outside Africa, were the Phoenicians, who colonized part of North Africa in 400 BC. They were later replaced by the Romans, who colonized large parts of North Africa.
      Greek colonization of Egypt began during the time of Alexander the Great. (Cleopatra was of Greek origin)
      Arabs colonized North Africa about a thousand years later.

    • Richard P

      Lyndall Beddy,

      The Red Cross is NOT a “Christian” charity. It has nothing whatsoever to do with any religion.

      As for Muslim charities, they do tend to focus on events in Muslim countries and there is an inevitable political focus.

      Are you suggesting that the Jews should stay out of politics?

    • Cutter

      The simple point that is being missed here is not whether or not the Western world is or isn’t controlled by Jews. It is a tenant that attributes the same characteristics to millions of people based on their *lowest common denominator*. Surely any reasonable person would know that painting all people with the same paintbrush is not something that an intelligent person would do. For instance, are we to assume that all Africans are murderous mobsters based on what the Hutu Africans did to the Tsutsi Africans?

      Likewise, so what if many people in positions of power in the USA are or are not Jewish? Does the fact that they share the same race or perhaps, religion mean that they will all think alike, speak alike and do alike? From the point of view of reasonability, the answer to this is a simple no. However, if you think the answer is yes, you are the carrier of discrimination and remember that you will be judged as you judge others.

      What statements as those made by the Dep. Minister and Sentletse aim to do, is exactly to paint people with the same paintbrush on account of their lowest common denominator, as if they are some sort of weird “hive mentality”. Furthermore, where exactly is it meant to lead? It can only be meant to lead to, if not resentment then outright hatred of those people by those such as the Dep. Minister and Sentletse who very pro-actively used their so-called “intellectual faculties” to vicitmise themselves into a state of exclusion or a state in which they are powerless to, inter alia, use diplomacy as a tool of influence.

      Conspiracy theories are the tools of victimhood consciousness and those who espouse victimhood consciousness will attract victimhood unto themselves. That includes the Dep. Minister & Sentletse, the latter of whom is so blinded by his own red herrings that he now projects Jewishness onto anyone in power irrespective of whether or not it is true, like Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    • http://letpeoplespeak.amagama.com Lyndall Beddy

      It is not only the youth, but also the adults who have no knowledge of history.

      And Steven Friedman, in my opinion, is a terrible analyst!

      Oldfox

      Arab colonisation started from the 7th to the 9th centuy. Timbuktu, as a main city on the trade route of the slave traders, was established in the 10th century. I roll around laughing when the SABC/SAFM talk about it as the oldest city in Africa. Were Cleopatra and Anthony cavorting in tents 2000 years ago?

      The Europeans only arrived on the coast of Africa in the 17th century

    • http://letpeoplespeak.amagama.com Lyndall Beddy

      Richard

      I am not suggesting anything. I am observing that charities stay out of politics – for obvious reasons.

      I think if you look up the history of “The Red Cross”, you will find it was started by Christians. However both they and “The Gift of the Givers” go everywhere IRRESPECTIVE OF RELIGION OR POLITICS!

    • Justin

      What a piece of bigotry. I put it on the same level as: “African people are just lazy and corrupt. Look at the evidence. They have haven’t been able to achieve anything and their continent continues to descend further into poverty. We need to face reality.”

      Both: complete nonsense.

    • Mark

      Count Basie once justified his sparse piano solos elegantly adorning his orchestral lushness by suggesting the listener “try to hear” what he wasn’t playing. Trite as this anlogy may appear, I have attempted to apply this discipline to the article by you DS, and trying to glean what you did not write.

      I wont descend to the obvious by suggesting that the numerous subtexts/encoded genuflections to base and endemic, crusty, centuries-old truth perversions, no matter how emphatically they may be comprehensively refuted, are little more than disturbingly lazy, sensationalist and worryingly, racialistic carbuncles suppurating in a scattered mind.

      I would even give you the benefit of the doubt by suggesting you wrote this in haste (as no doubt you conducted your “research” (sic)), and is now backpeddaling furiously to reconcile the tripe with some form of vaild riposte.

      I suggest we can see all too easily how robust these are. They arent.

      However, referring to the absences referred to above in your statistical denouement of Jewish tentacles, I would also ask you to indicate, inter-alia the following:

      The vast array of Jewish involvement in the journey towards US Civil Rights;

      The Jewish contribution to the demise fo Apartheid;

      Indeed sadly, the silent acquiesence of many other Jews in the fostering of same (thereby debunking right there the notion of some sinister Jew conspiracy)…sigh

      The detailed list of disproportionate contribution of Jewish money to altruistic causes and philanthropy in areas where there is neither expectation nor desire of a return, let alone power and influence other than universal wellbeing – examples: Healthcare, Human Rights. (So many examples abound on your research tool du jour – google, that I’m certain you will have little difficulty in buidling this massive compendium)

      The numbers of Jews whose cession of rights to the academic institutions faciliating the numerous Jewish researchers aspirations to discovery (Nobel laureates etc)neither designed to enrich nor seek adulation.

      The list of Jews in odd positions of authority (not power) thereby further debunking the thesis. example The Bahreini Ambassador to the UK is a Jew (and female) shock horror….all benign and positive, and NOT as you would portray

      The Captains of Industry (now demoted to mere corporeal status) jostling for benefits (yes they exist – I am one)…so much for power and cotrol and influence

      On the flip side I’m also intersted as to why you have been so selective: why not the number of Jews controlling football team (and NFL in the US) not to mention Oligarchs in Russia…or how about the ratio of synagogues to Jews (who dont attend) – You’ll find it surprising since there is always one shul that a jew refuses to go to!

      Or perhaps the number of rabbis (not that this is a great job for a nice jewish Boy and increasingly Girl – OY!) to aspire to

      perhaps you get my drift – your book of lists demeans both you and the readers who try to make sense of it and regretfully come up with…..a naked predisposition to race hate fometation

      How ever do you cope!

      Predictabloy though there will be the odd blogger on here who will merely suggest that altrusim in merely another method we Yiddles use to subvert the system.

      Why even bother when its spokesmen have neither the ability nor increasingly the nous to engage…like you DS.

    • hds

      Late to this, but so entertained I can’t help but point out…

      A quick search indicates that Rahm Emmanuel is the only Jew on the list you gave of Obama’s cabinet. I posted an updated list on the blog that responded to yours.

      The commenter who quoted “Tzipora Menache” apparently didn’t bother to note that she is a fictional person. Even Stormfront admits that (it was attached to a computer virus so that those googling the quote would inadvertently download it).

      Snopes.com is your friend, man, you need to utilize it more often if you’re going to keep up these pretenses to journalism.

      Oh, and in case I’m going to be lumped in with the “Jewish mafia”: I’m Presbyterian, directly descended from the English Calvinists who came over on the Mayflower (yes, my family roots in the US go back to 1620). I’m as WASPish as they come (White Anglo-Saxon Protestant, in case that’s an acronym with which you’re unfamiliar).

    • Juan Gonzal

      to david Hurst and other shmuks: sure juden do not belong to one of human races (ie semites), them are religion from outer space.that is why everyone jude, with rare exception,always parading as Christian, Muslim, Hindu, or anyone else (they are
      called kripto-juden,to be sure, for millenia). talmud is the whole content of they brain, they can beat anyone in mindless endless argumenting. so
      any honest open debate with this breed is absolutely impossible, period. Hold your breath humans, you’ll never win this one.